_Michael Lester in conversation with Kieran Pender, senior lawyer for the Whistleblower Project at the Human Rights Law Centre (HRLC), discuss recent high-profile whistleblowing cases in both public (e.g. East Timor) and private (e.g. CBA) sectors. _

Kieran highlights the personal costs of whistleblowing—such as trials, imprisonment, fines, career loss, and mental health struggles—amid Australia’s declining legal protections and assistance. The not-for-profit HRLC offers free advice and support for selected cases while advocating for critical legal and institutional reforms.

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