Presenter and Pearls and Irritations Editor Catriona Jackson is joined for the third and final episode of the Dismissal editon of Pearlcast.

Catriona is joined by two guests at the heart of the story:

• John Menadue, former head of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet under Whitlam, and Founder and Editor-in-Chief of Pearls and Irritations • Brian Toohey, the journalist who has dug deepest into CIA and other foreign interference in the Dismissal

Together they work to untangle a murky web of people and nations, pressuring Sir John Kerr, and interfering in the sovereignty of a democractic nation.