MARIANA MAZZUCATO. Can the STATE deliver?

Visitors to Australia are drawn to this country’s iconic coastline. After landing in Sydney early in the morning I went straight Bondi’s famous Icebergs ocean pool to do a few laps. It was spectacular. A gorgeous pool in the depths of the sea, a symbol that it’s not just infrastructure, but well-designed infrastructure that makes a difference: public value that public and private actors can create when they get the mix right. Icebergs is one of around 150 ocean baths in the state of New South Wales. Some are licenced to private operators, others are run by local government. If Icebergs is any indication, they are all a unique public realm – long-lived investments that provide access to the natural environment, a base for local business, and a place for communities to come together.

As any good swimmer knows, for all the activity above the waterline, the difference between success and failure happens under the surface. This is true of entire economies, too. As the Chair of the US Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, quipped last week, Australia’s 27 years of consecutive economic growth “feels like forever” by global standards. Australians are proud of that performance – and should be. Thanks to an effective fiscal stimulus package, and a well-timed mining boom, Australia’s economy managed to grow during the global financial crisis that plunged most of the advanced economic world into severe recession.

But more recently cracks have begun to appear. Inequality is rising. Concerns over housing affordability have skyrocketed. The Banking Royal Commission has highlighted deep problems in the financial sector. The longer-term challenge of building a more diversified, innovative economy is unresolved. And environmental and sustainability risks, led by climate change, are starting to hit home – both on public and private balance sheets and in the public consciousness.

27 years of growth is a fine achievement. But what if Australia – like many other countries – has been too focused on the rate of economic growth, and not on its direction? All the activity is great, but where is it getting the land down under? Understanding how to transform the Australian economy towards a transition that is about green growth requires the same bold thinking about design, infrastructure, and public realm that the Iceberg pool brings to mind.

I am meeting Australian policymakers, business people, civil society groups and academics this week to discuss how we can address these big challenges and generate a smarter, more equitable and sustainable economy. My key message at last night’s John Menadue Oration at Carriageworks in Sydney was that such a strategy depends on freeing policy makers from the straightjacket of thinking that at best they can pick up the mess created by unfettered markets. The narrow training public choice theory provides often means civil servants think government failures are worse than market failures. The tool kit that emerges from that thinking will not gear us up for 21st century challenges.

As I argued in The Entrepreneurial State, the defining leaps forward in our living memories – whether in medicine, computers, energy or nanotechnology– were often made possible by the state acting as an investor of first resort, investing in the high risk capital intensive areas that allowed business to see new opportunities. Indeed, most of the tech in your pocket, those things that make your smart phones smart, rather than dumb – the internet, touch screens, GPS, Siri – were originally the product of government research and innovation, much of it stemming back to Cold-War era government-led “missions” for space travel or defence. Australia’s scientific research organisation, the CSIRO, made its own contribution here through its work on the Wifi technology that millions of these devices use. In each case the technology emerged as a solution to a problem. But rather than military problems, we should be asking how modern day ‘wicked’ problems around inequality, climate and health can provide urgency to find new solutions, spurring cross-sectoral investments and bottom up solutions.

My work with the European Union and policymakers around the world argues for a “mission-oriented” approach where states lead ambitious responses to major long-term economic, social and environmental challenges and opportunities. Missions are about collaboration – while public policy sets the direction, they create frameworks for different actors, sectors and disciplines to work towards socially-oriented goals – and smarter and more sustainable directions for economic growth. Think affordable and sustainable energy for Australian households, or making Australia a net renewable energy exporter, or saving the Great Barrier Reef, or leading a global sustainable finance agenda, or reversing the extinction crisis for Australian plants and animals.

These are ambitious, but achievable, targets. Mobilising activity towards each of them would have major positive scientific and social spillovers. And they would all help make Australia a country that has even more to be proud of apart from its steadily-increasing GDP.

Delivering on missions requires major investment, including in the capability of the public sector to set a clear direction. This means new licence to make direct investments and take risks, new ways of evaluating policy proposals, new forms of partnerships with other actors—including the ability to listen and harness the demands coming from social movements. Indeed, finding a way for different stakeholders to come together in a trusted setting to co-create missions can potentially bring back trust in the political process in terms of real value to people’s lives.

As I argue in The Value of Everything, we should also consider how to reform the financial sector, which needs to find a clearer relationship with the real economy, to fuel capital investment and innovation rather than a speculative sector obsessed with itself. Hyper-financialisation reduces the funds that firms direct towards long-term value-creating innovation and investment, and leads to systemic risks and crises which end up scarring public as well as private balance sheets.

We should not underestimate the new tools required, including those that the Treasury uses to evaluate public investments—too often encumbered by static cost benefit analysis that would have killed any mission from the start. And it also requires a new confidence in the state’s ability to deliver – and commensurate investment in the skills, capabilities, and people the public sector. Learning organisations, able to explore and experiment require internal investments—less outsourcing to think tanks and consultants.

This is not easy, but one thing my visit has reinforced is that Australian’s don’t shy away from a challenge. In fact, as recent research by my hosts the Centre for Policy Development shows, Australian’s might be uniquely up for the task of rebuilding the effectiveness and sense of purpose in their democracy. And already there are major institutions making a big difference: the Commonwealth Government’s Clean Energy Finance Corporation, now the largest state green bank in the world, is one leading example of a public institution playing a critical role in Australia’s clean energy innovation system and reducing the country’s greenhouse gas emissions. Australia’s public servants also played a pivotal role in drafting and shaping the Sustainable Development Goals, from which a whole set of Australian ‘moonshots’ could be chosen.

The stakes are high, but so is the appetite for change. As an election year looms, it is time Australians think more about where they want their economy to take them, and demand that their next government has the courage to lead the way.

Mariana Mazzucato is Professor in the Economics of Innovation and Public Value at University College London and the founder and director of their Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose.

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3 Responses to MARIANA MAZZUCATO. Can the STATE deliver?

  1. Wayne McMillan says:

    A big thank you to the Centre for Policy Development and Qantas for bringing out Mariana Mazzucato to Australia for the the second talk in honour of a great Australian and public servant John Menadue. Long may these talks continue!!

    Mazzucato’s talk in Sydney was inspiring, amusing and thought provoking. I hope she will come back again in 2019. Mariana gives hope to all Australians who want to see the public sector take the lead in research and development in tandem with astute private sector entrepreneurs.

    The answer to Can the State Deliver? is a resounding YES if only governments wake up and provide the necessary funds for the public sector to be successful.

    At the Commonwealth level at this moment in time, there are no impediments to creating more fiscal expenditure on public sector R&D. The nonsense about balancing budgets over the business cycle and budget repair, must be seen for what they are mere ideological humbug. When a national sovereign government, which is the issuer of its own currency, has no foreign public debt in another currency, has a free floating exchange rate and has idle resources in capital, machinery, plant and human resources, it can always spend in its own currency. Under these circumstances federal governments can always spend before they tax!!

    Lets hope and pray that governments will wake up and start giving more funds to organisations like the CSIRO before its too late!!

  2. John Doyle says:

    I didn’t notice MM was here last week, which was a pity. I have seen some of her writings in the UK. What I am not sure about is whether she subscribes to MMT. Modern Monetary Theory. I ask because MMT has answers to many of the ideas that are road blocks today.

    Take for example the infamous retort to anyone contemplating spending up on healthcare for example; “How will you pay for it”. Bernie Sanders wriggles and writhes trying to answer with a tax increase. That answer is a fail and shows Bernie is not the man to aspire to be POTUS.

    The real MMT answer is supremely simple The central bank writes you [if its your debt] a cheque!
    Ben Bernanke put it to a question on 60 minutes in 2009. “The Federal reserve has a printing press or rather the electronic equivalent and can mark up reserve accounts in the Fed with numbers that reflect the debt” [its not word perfect] So when the government gets a debt, one authorised by Congress in its appropriations bills, the fed pays the customer with numbers in his bank account. At the same time that debt is extinguished. The federal or Common wealth Government is monetary sovereign. Not only can it spend on paying any invoiced debt it faces, it neither needs to save or to borrow in its own currency.

    So for Mariana to get what she thinks we need she just has to convince the politicians to understand where money come from!!!

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