How can we make sense of the contemporary situation of increasing violence? Some groups engage in terrorism against other groups and these engage in torture as a means of defeating the terrorism of the others? In liberal states torture is condemned as immoral; some seek to prohibit it by law, others defend it as a necessary and effective means to defend freedom. Historical experience suggests that torture will continue.

Paul W. Kahn, in Sacred Violence: Torture, Terror and Sovereignty, (Ann Arbor, 2011) argues that secular, liberal philosophy and the theories of rights that it has developed, cannot deal with these issues. The key is a religious notion that he calls sovereignty. By this Kahn means a notion of ultimate reality. Both sides of the contemporary war on terrorism appeal to an ultimate reality. For the jihardist this may take the form of a distorted notion of god. But western, liberal states have their own conceptions of a sacred reality. We may call this our freedom. To defend this, these states send their young women and men to kill terrorists and to be ready to sacrifice their own lives in the service of the sacred reality. Once we begin to speak of sacrifice we move into the realm of religious experience and religious discourse.

We can relate Kahns analysis to our Australian situation. If we have any doubts about the importance of the religious dimension in Australian political imagination we need only think of the veneration attached to the sacrifices of Anzac. In the conflict between the two sides, terrorists and their opponents, as interpreted by Kahn, each side seeks to degrade the other and ultimately to prove the others god is false. This degradation is what is going on in the macabre beheadings carried out by ISIS; in the logic of such groups it is not enough to kill members of the other group. The killing must be done in such a way as to mock and debase the basic values of the other group. The same dynamism drives the exhortations to kill as many unbelievers as possible.

It is a requirement of justice to repel the violence of such groups. But the response of the West has gone beyond this. As example we can cite the degrading practices of torture as revealed in the recent U.S. Senate Intelligence Committees Torture Report. The twisted arguments invoked to justify these practices are not examples of good reason; they are the utterances of distorted, self-justification, more akin to pseudo-religion. Other nations have been no better. For example, in 2013 the British government finally agreed to compensate 5,228 Kenyans who were tortured during the Mau Mau rebellion of the 1950s. Other cases of torture for the protection of the British Empire are coming to light.

Torture is not the only issue. According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, CIA drone strikes in Pakistan have killed 416-959 civilians, including 168-204 children and injured 1,133 1796. It is reported that the CIA has now recognized that such targeted killings can strengthen extremist groups and be counter-productive. Killing by drones, it is now recognized, may actually increase support for the insurgents, . . . if these strikes enhance the insurgent leaders lore, if non-combatants are killed in the attacks, if legitimate or semi-legitimate politicians aligned with the insurgents are targeted, or if the government is already seen as overly repressive or violent.(The Age, December 19th. 2014) We may note the logic of these reservations; they are not based on considerations of morality and virtue. Drone strikes are questioned because they have been found to be a counter-productive use of power.

It is facile to present the current conflict as between unmitigated evil on one side, and absolute good on the other. We are told by politicians that, They hate us for what we are, as if they hated the virtue that we represent. In an interview in Le Monde, 26 November 2001, Ren Girard explained the social and cultural mechanisms that are involved. The terrorist groups do not hate the virtue that we represent: they envy the power that we have and desire intensely to acquire similar power.

The contemporary terrorist is in fact caught up in a relationship of mimesis or competitive imitation with the Great Satan, as he calls the U.S.A. and its allies. The terrorist desires to have what the opponent has, namely great, overwhelming power. The more violently the great Satan exercises that power the more attractive that becomes to the terrorist and the more violence the terrorist will use in an endeavor to acquire that power. The more productive the power of the terrorist, the more he is convinced that his god is true.

We cannot counter terrorism and defend our values by the use of violent power that is contrary to those values. Torture and targeted killing are not only counter-productive they are a denial of what we claim to stand for. They are irreconcilable with faith in the ultimate reality or God that we hold to be true.

Brian Johnstone,is a Catholic Priest who taught moral theology in Rome for nearly 20 years. Currently he teaches at the Catholic University in Washington.